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Emerging Standards

Meeting
ImmDS + HALO
Date
Thursday, October 1, 2026
Time
3:00 PM America/New_York
Status Closed

Meeting Information

All ImmDS + HALO Meetings
Meeting between AIRA and HLN to support implementation of a new CDS solution that realizes the new ImmDS + HALO standard.

Chair: Nathan Bunker

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Topic / Time Agenda Presenter(s)
Welcome and Introductions Current topic
3:00 PM–3:05 PM
5 min
Welcome
Introductions
Notes
  • Discussing before the meeting starts InteropHub. There is a lot of detail, need to have umbrella topics. If a topic gets added, how do I know it gets added. For folks engaged in multiple things spending less time on administration and have having less choices is a good things. Trying to figure out each group is relevant is very hard. Explaining what happens when you pick or don't pick a sub group would be helpful.
  • Looking at the agenda.
Nathan Bunker
3:05 PM–3:20 PM
15 min
Update on progress from HLN and AIRA
Review of discussions from HL7 WGM
Notes
  • Update on what is going on with software
    • Next release of ICE will have the target disease adjustments in it FHIR-58952 in particular, and others as well.
    • Should HLN should move forward with the current design to remove the extensions? The more stable we can make the API then have to introduce the changes later on.
      • The extensions, and do it a different way, it's a bigger lift.
      • Other strategy was to keep it in extensions and then when it was approved then replicating it. Leaving the extensions in.
      • Would this be an issue if a non-normative message came out then would this a problem for someone with a normative message.
      • Don't know enough about the client side to know what HLN should do.
      • Already facing the problem of being outside the incubator with the first change of 0..1 going to 0..* for disease.
      • Stay conformant with the incubator or fix it?
      • Can this be fast tracked?
      • Anyone implementing this will have to deal with a non-standard interface today. HLN is feeling that getting this as close to what the final is. Didn't want to do a split out just to remain conformant.
      • Maybe we can go faster, then we know that it's going there.
      • Do the incubators just live in build.fhir.org? Do you just use the latest build?
      • Will ask this at the Public Health WG meeting in the next hour.
Outcomes
  • Will ask this at the Public Health WG meeting in the next hour.
Nathan Bunker
Chris Sorenson
FHIR Open Tickets Current topic
3:20 PM–3:55 PM
35 min
Structural/definitional
*FHIR-58952 - MULTIPLE TARGET DISEASES IN IMMUNIZATION EVALUATION
*FHIR-58655 - ImmunizationRecommendation VaccineCode has a conflated definition
*FHIR-59485 - ImmunizationEvaluation: Change 'series' from string to CodeableConcept
*FHIR-59486 - ImmunizationRecommendation: Change 'series' from string to CodeableConcept

Handled in ICE FHIR API extensions
*FHIR-57247 - ImmunizationRecommendation.authority needs to be moved under recommendation backbone element
*FHIR-56990 - ImmunizationRecommendation.authority cardinality expansion
*FHIR-56989 - ImmunizationEvaluation.authority cardinality expansion
*FHIR-59487 - ImmunizationEvaluation: Add season
*FHIR-59488 - ImmunizationRecommendation: Add season
*FHIR-59489 - ImmunizationRecommendation: Add seriesDosesRemaining

Other open questions
*Option for recommendation-related URL: PlanDefinition, Library, Device, and Device Definition
Notes
  • Working on FHIR tickets.
  • Comment from participant: The scenario I was considering is that there is a provider. Provider is using Authority A for a recommended influenza vaccine schedule and Authority B for a TB schedule. Patient 1 has received vaccinations for both influenza and TB. How is that represented? (can be addressed offline/different time and place)
  • Another topic: How do we message at the technical level to share how the logic got to the answer. HLN software provides a URL for this. Maybe PlanDefinition, Library, DeviceDefinition. Device seemed to narrow but actually it's more broad. Probably more than a URL, maybe version number and data. PlanDefinition had some references to CDS. Action item is to do more investigation.
    • The term needed is something like "clinical decision support rule that is backing the recommendation for a particular vaccine group".
    • Need this at the recommendation backbone element.
    • URL can be displayed as additional documentation
    • Explains the logic that was used to make the recommendation
  • Discussed 7 tickets that would be useful to move.
Erin Roche
Wrap Up Current topic
3:55 PM–4:00 PM
5 min
Next Steps
Question about Call time, can we move earlier to allow for European participation?
Notes
  • Agreed to move to 10 am ET. Nathan will setup new call time.
Outcomes
  • Agreed to move to 10 am ET. Nathan will setup new call time.